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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 17:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You people have no sense of proportion. Without the PAP, oldman and HoJinx, we could have charted worse. We could have lost 1 trillion dollars and Singapore will become the next Atlantis. With opp party, we will have no future, no CPF, no Dream, no money, no house, no this and that. Only with PAP and their effective government can we live a happy life in very very long term.&quot;

PLease support the above statement so that ST Forum can accept the truthful statement. Op... please help me so that I can apply for a job as ST editor to publish more nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You people have no sense of proportion. Without the PAP, oldman and HoJinx, we could have charted worse. We could have lost 1 trillion dollars and Singapore will become the next Atlantis. With opp party, we will have no future, no CPF, no Dream, no money, no house, no this and that. Only with PAP and their effective government can we live a happy life in very very long term.&#8221;</p>
<p>PLease support the above statement so that ST Forum can accept the truthful statement. Op&#8230; please help me so that I can apply for a job as ST editor to publish more nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Peasant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peasant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 07:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>retiree, you&#039;re a fool.

Since when is government&#039;s government&#039;s?

There is no government without people, and all and everything of the government, whatever it does, good or bad, is for and of the people, and belongs to the people. Its right to govern, to exercise power, even to lift a single finger,  is a mandate given by the people for the people, and not for itself.

And it is the people who decides what is a fair pay or not. But of course this is all theory and meaningless here. And for certain whatever the government does is legal. For do you not know who writes and amends the law? And have you not heard from long ago that the law is an ass? And then there is someone called T T Durai. Heard of him? The law as with anything else can be abused, and legal can means nothing.

No democractic government is for itself. That is a corruption of democracy. This is not to say that democracy is the only form of governance, nor is it the most ideal.

There are autocracies, monarchies, kingdoms and dynasties too. 

For sure we dont have to adhere to any theories of governance, and not even commit ourselves to any principles, eg some inviolable human rights. And that is power at work, absolute power.

Evil men use power for evil, and good for good. But no man is good.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely, even those, initially, incorruptible. And true corruption, is of course, impeccably legal. And therefore no man must be given absolute power. Alas, that is also only theory.

We may think we are pragmatic and wise by voting the apparently better choice, and ignore the clowns, but we may end up the greater fools in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>retiree, you&#8217;re a fool.</p>
<p>Since when is government&#8217;s government&#8217;s?</p>
<p>There is no government without people, and all and everything of the government, whatever it does, good or bad, is for and of the people, and belongs to the people. Its right to govern, to exercise power, even to lift a single finger,  is a mandate given by the people for the people, and not for itself.</p>
<p>And it is the people who decides what is a fair pay or not. But of course this is all theory and meaningless here. And for certain whatever the government does is legal. For do you not know who writes and amends the law? And have you not heard from long ago that the law is an ass? And then there is someone called T T Durai. Heard of him? The law as with anything else can be abused, and legal can means nothing.</p>
<p>No democractic government is for itself. That is a corruption of democracy. This is not to say that democracy is the only form of governance, nor is it the most ideal.</p>
<p>There are autocracies, monarchies, kingdoms and dynasties too. </p>
<p>For sure we dont have to adhere to any theories of governance, and not even commit ourselves to any principles, eg some inviolable human rights. And that is power at work, absolute power.</p>
<p>Evil men use power for evil, and good for good. But no man is good.</p>
<p>Absolute power corrupts absolutely, even those, initially, incorruptible. And true corruption, is of course, impeccably legal. And therefore no man must be given absolute power. Alas, that is also only theory.</p>
<p>We may think we are pragmatic and wise by voting the apparently better choice, and ignore the clowns, but we may end up the greater fools in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: settle at 10 paces</title>
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		<dc:creator>settle at 10 paces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 06:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to pandai, temasek, retiree.

You 3 blowjob artists should be writing the speech for MM, SM, PM, HC  or the 3 of you can persuade your political leaders to allow you buggers to be part of the same GRC and campaign with the same rhetoric. 
With the law in my pocket and security apparatus at my disposal, I can also talk a lot of cock with you buggers anytime.
LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to pandai, temasek, retiree.</p>
<p>You 3 blowjob artists should be writing the speech for MM, SM, PM, HC  or the 3 of you can persuade your political leaders to allow you buggers to be part of the same GRC and campaign with the same rhetoric.<br />
With the law in my pocket and security apparatus at my disposal, I can also talk a lot of cock with you buggers anytime.<br />
LOL</p>
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		<title>By: retiree</title>
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		<dc:creator>retiree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 09:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Pandai and Temasek.

These low life peasants do not deserve the wonderful service of our govt.
Go ahead and vote them all out and see the kind of govt you get with the likes of Low TK, Sylvia, Chiam, Gomez, Kenneth J, etc.

Can any of you low life name a family that have contributed more than the Lee family ? In fact MM, SM, PM and all the present talents will be more than happy to retire in style sipping tequila and fine wine from afar. They deserve this and all the hard earned money they have made legally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Pandai and Temasek.</p>
<p>These low life peasants do not deserve the wonderful service of our govt.<br />
Go ahead and vote them all out and see the kind of govt you get with the likes of Low TK, Sylvia, Chiam, Gomez, Kenneth J, etc.</p>
<p>Can any of you low life name a family that have contributed more than the Lee family ? In fact MM, SM, PM and all the present talents will be more than happy to retire in style sipping tequila and fine wine from afar. They deserve this and all the hard earned money they have made legally.</p>
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		<title>By: Temasek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temasek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 02:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey! Enough of this.

I am just being gracious to say something about our private matters. And I am just being polite and civil. I too could have say F*CK off, or more effectively, Shut up and Sit down. But I chose to tell you its none of your business in an educated manner, but you peasants are obviously not getting it.

I don&#039;t have to say anything in the first place. And I surely don&#039;t have to explain our brilliance and mysterious ways to you little minded, short sighted people. Yes sure we lost BIG with BOA but do you know if we won BIGGER with something else? And then I talk to god directly. So who are you people to me?

The government&#039;s money is the government&#039;s business. You have your CPF. We owe nobody anything. It is not like we borrowed your money to gamble. It is our very own money. You may say your CPF and the income tax surpluses are part of our funds, but do you know if they are miniscule compared to what we ploughed back from all our past investment successes?

You sweat your for your little stuff. We sweat for ours. And you are so arrogant to think that you are paying our fair salaries. Let me tell you we earned it, and we are just being modest.

We are fair. We are honest. We will always keep our promises. Sue us if you want, and I can bet whatever we do is legal, and you lose your pants and more if you ever do dare try. And the Singapore courts of law is always definitive proof of who is righteous and who is true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! Enough of this.</p>
<p>I am just being gracious to say something about our private matters. And I am just being polite and civil. I too could have say F*CK off, or more effectively, Shut up and Sit down. But I chose to tell you its none of your business in an educated manner, but you peasants are obviously not getting it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have to say anything in the first place. And I surely don&#8217;t have to explain our brilliance and mysterious ways to you little minded, short sighted people. Yes sure we lost BIG with BOA but do you know if we won BIGGER with something else? And then I talk to god directly. So who are you people to me?</p>
<p>The government&#8217;s money is the government&#8217;s business. You have your CPF. We owe nobody anything. It is not like we borrowed your money to gamble. It is our very own money. You may say your CPF and the income tax surpluses are part of our funds, but do you know if they are miniscule compared to what we ploughed back from all our past investment successes?</p>
<p>You sweat your for your little stuff. We sweat for ours. And you are so arrogant to think that you are paying our fair salaries. Let me tell you we earned it, and we are just being modest.</p>
<p>We are fair. We are honest. We will always keep our promises. Sue us if you want, and I can bet whatever we do is legal, and you lose your pants and more if you ever do dare try. And the Singapore courts of law is always definitive proof of who is righteous and who is true.</p>
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		<title>By: talent</title>
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		<dc:creator>talent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 22:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Risk adjusted basis? Actually, at the point of sale of BOA&#039;s shares, it has gotten so low, that Temasek is only risking losing 1 billion ++ at most. At that price, there is hardly any risk. Also, if Temasek is so uncertain,  why does it convert its holdings of ML to BOA share earlier (less than 12 months ago).

if Temasek lost more than 80% of its investment in BOA, it must surely have made more than 80% somewhere else this year in order for its portfolio to make money. Where is that?

Worst of all, Temasek&#039;s performance with BOA is making itself the laughing stock in the investment community, disgracing Singapore. That is a another high price paid by the people of Singapore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Risk adjusted basis? Actually, at the point of sale of BOA&#8217;s shares, it has gotten so low, that Temasek is only risking losing 1 billion ++ at most. At that price, there is hardly any risk. Also, if Temasek is so uncertain,  why does it convert its holdings of ML to BOA share earlier (less than 12 months ago).</p>
<p>if Temasek lost more than 80% of its investment in BOA, it must surely have made more than 80% somewhere else this year in order for its portfolio to make money. Where is that?</p>
<p>Worst of all, Temasek&#8217;s performance with BOA is making itself the laughing stock in the investment community, disgracing Singapore. That is a another high price paid by the people of Singapore.</p>
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		<title>By: talent</title>
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		<dc:creator>talent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 22:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are the stupid one.

We are in the black?

Are you sure?

Even if it is, that&#039;s because we are working hard. Resource reach countries generally don&#039;t have hard working population by the way. Why don&#039;t you bench mark with the best countries.

That does not mean, people could irresponsibly dump our monies away in badly conducted investment process. We lost 4 billion by the way. We could have relived our people from heavy HDB/banks housing loans or medical benefits.

Hong Kong is not a country but its governors are much more responsible.

Why do your leaders benchmark themselves against them?

Also, things are still ok now because we still have savings. the people I mean.

If the current irresponsible government continues, we might lost everything we slog for in the last 40 years.

That has happened before. 

Continue dreaming while the old man is still alive.

When he passes away, we shall see if you are still so cocky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are the stupid one.</p>
<p>We are in the black?</p>
<p>Are you sure?</p>
<p>Even if it is, that&#8217;s because we are working hard. Resource reach countries generally don&#8217;t have hard working population by the way. Why don&#8217;t you bench mark with the best countries.</p>
<p>That does not mean, people could irresponsibly dump our monies away in badly conducted investment process. We lost 4 billion by the way. We could have relived our people from heavy HDB/banks housing loans or medical benefits.</p>
<p>Hong Kong is not a country but its governors are much more responsible.</p>
<p>Why do your leaders benchmark themselves against them?</p>
<p>Also, things are still ok now because we still have savings. the people I mean.</p>
<p>If the current irresponsible government continues, we might lost everything we slog for in the last 40 years.</p>
<p>That has happened before. </p>
<p>Continue dreaming while the old man is still alive.</p>
<p>When he passes away, we shall see if you are still so cocky.</p>
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		<title>By: Pandai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pandai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 15:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s Economics. You either make or break. Boh Pau Chiak! Sometimes lose because overlord says please buy. Protection money lah, bodoh!

Go buy lottery. See if can surely win.

Anyway, where did the funds come from in the first place? SDP? What part did you have in its creation. Evern me as a Singaporean doesn&#039;t have the THICK SKIN to claim credit. LOL!

Who grew the cake? Everyone knows it&#039;s not you for sure but MM &amp; Ho Ching.

We&#039;re still in the black. We don&#039;t turn-turtles when times are bad.

We&#039;re all-weather supporters. 45 GOOD YEARS when others are still languishing in poverty.

Go travel and see what&#039;s happening to the resource-rich countries today.

You fool . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s Economics. You either make or break. Boh Pau Chiak! Sometimes lose because overlord says please buy. Protection money lah, bodoh!</p>
<p>Go buy lottery. See if can surely win.</p>
<p>Anyway, where did the funds come from in the first place? SDP? What part did you have in its creation. Evern me as a Singaporean doesn&#8217;t have the THICK SKIN to claim credit. LOL!</p>
<p>Who grew the cake? Everyone knows it&#8217;s not you for sure but MM &amp; Ho Ching.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re still in the black. We don&#8217;t turn-turtles when times are bad.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re all-weather supporters. 45 GOOD YEARS when others are still languishing in poverty.</p>
<p>Go travel and see what&#8217;s happening to the resource-rich countries today.</p>
<p>You fool . . .</p>
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		<dc:creator>The fine art of blowing off your head and still coming up roses - The Bank of America Saga! : The Wayang Party (大戏党)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 14:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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